Conversations with Aman
posted July 11th, 2007 at 5:37 pm by Betty
Several years ago I met Aman Mehrzai, an American Muslim, living in Houston. A parishioner introduced me to him, and our conversations led to his giving several talks to our youth groups about being a Muslim in American. Our Magdalene Community is starting a series of talks about various world religions this Sunday. So it seems like a good time for us to have some conversations online with Aman about Islam. Aman now lives in California, and I asked him to write a first letter to begin our conversation. I hope you will join in the conversation - he, too, as you can see from the last paragraph, thinks dialogue and conversation is a significant part of our healing and reconciliation today.
Here is his first letter:
Betty,
For years the great religions of Christianity and Islam have heard of each other mainly through myth and fables of defamation – often in the form of negative false literature in the old days, and more-so through media propaganda in the present. It’s Al-Jazeera (explaining why the West is wicked) versus Fox News (over why Muslims are evil); both sides often approaching the “story” about each other in an antagonistic and suspicious manner.
Well I am an oxymoron living in the midst of judgment and misunderstandings. I am Muslim, but American – with my great grandfather of 13 generations ago being a Jewish Rabbi who converted to Islam.
My parents loved God, but did not emphasize Him in the household. When they died, I was only 14 years old, and my love of God too died with them. I fell into a darkness of atheism, wondering and questioning why God would do this to me. Through alcohol and drugs I did not find the answer. I only finally realized that I wasn’t really an atheist – I was just mad at God.
My girlfriend’s father at the time, worked hard at making Jesus my personal savior. In the beginning I went to Church with him because I felt it would be good politics to keep things smooth between me and my girlfriend. But as I heard the pastor speaking of the compassionate stories of Jesus – I realized that this was no ordinary man he was talking about. I was moved by the charisma, love and relentless revolutionary ideas of the Messiah.
Under pressure from my girlfriend’s father, the pastor attempted to explain the trinity to me after sermon one day, but a big question mark arouse on my face in the shape of my eyebrow. His attempts to explain the trinity through multi-faceted examples with all earnest left me scratching my head. “The trinity is like a hard boiled egg,” said the pastor. “The shell, white and yolk are three, but one.” Without realizing that my response may be disrespectful I asked him, “What if I eat the yolk? What then?” The pastor gazed my face for signs of ridicule, but after realizing my sincerity, well, he simply grabbed my hand as a father would to a son and replied, “This is where you just believe my son. Logic could only take you so far.”
He was right; logic can only take me so far. I was now convinced that there was a God, but the trinity was a complicated story and deserved much more research. My journey started with the Church, Synagogue, Buddhist Temple, then to the Mosque, not necessarily for spiritual enlightenment, but for intellectual fulfillment. My love was in understanding why people believed what they did – I was interested in the roots. This internal journey led me to a physical journey to the Himalayas, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Morocco, Mauritania and Senegal in Africa, but the hardest journey of all was going deep through the mountains and dark crevasses of my heart – to understand why I am the way I am, and why I believe and love God.
You see Betty, questioning is deep! My physical journeys have stopped for now – but my internal journal will never stop, as I believe it will continue into the afterlife.
Living in a predominantly Christian country, I see, feel and understand the pains and fears of my countrymen and women towards Muslims. I am American. What I am not interested in, is proving through brute and bronze the strength of our Gods to each other. For this reason, I constantly visit different churches, in hopes of increasing nothing less than sheer understanding. We must come to know each other, and I am convinced that only through love and understanding will God grant us success in this life and the next. I am also convinced that this is what God wants us to do in this country as He is the one who controls the hearts – and only He can change them.
I finish my lengthy introduction with this thought; we can constantly claim in vain “united we stand.”
But I often ponder what this unity really means, if we make no effort other than listening to what the T.V. tube has to say as our primary source of understanding each other?
I pray that God gives us strength to open dialogue between you and me, and other Muslims, Christians and Jews alike, to act as stitches in the healing process of our beloved homeland, America.
Thank you for your time and patience,
Aman Mehrzai
Servant of God
Response from Betty:
Aman,
I think your first paragraph hits the mark - we sometimes approach each other with suspicion (thinking, what is the real agenda here? what does he/she want from me? will I get an evangelisitic pitch? ) And this is not just the case with persons of different religions but with persons of different races, class, and gender, to name a few of the occasions when red flags go up in alert. It probably has to do with our “sedimented layers” (to use a word from Heidegger) of ancient hostilities, either personal or collective, and/or with our fears of the unknown. We can’t exactly predict how our conversation will go with someone we don’t know or understand. Fear calls for an alert, and while that might be good in some cases, it greatly hampers new friendships. So the first step in any conversation is to settle down and recognize those layers and name them if we can. Then perhaps we can begin to build up trust. All this takes a great deal of time and effort. No wonder it happens so little.
Alas, news media thrive on conflict because it sells. Those reported conflicts deepen our suspicions on a daily basis. The question that glares here is: why does conflict sell? Why are we eager to read about commotion and crisis Does it fulfill an expectation of a sort? Is this learned behavior or something more?
Thank you for telling us your story of seeking God and the pastor’s portrait of a compassionate Jesus. Those of us in the Christian tradition are pleased with that portrait. I would agree that the egg metaphor takes us only so far. Ultimately, we have to throw in the towel in explanation and stand before Great Mystery.
I would be interested in learning more about your daily prayers and your spirituality whenever you think the time is right to go into that. Let’s see how our readers respond?
Betty
Conversations in the Magdalene Community about World Religions will take place on Sundays at the Rothko Chapel at 10:00 am according to the following calendar.
Judaism: July 15 and 22
Buddhism: July 29 and August 5
Islam: August 12 and 19
Native American: August 26 and September 2
Christianity: September 16
We are indebted to Janie Stevens of the Diocese of Texas for providing the symbols and materials for this series of Sundays from her “Peace Village” collection.
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July 12th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Aman and Betty,
As the Magdalene Community member who volunteered to study and lead the community in the conversations on Islam, I am deeply interested in this discussion. I almost don’t know where to start, except to take the “Peace Village” as my inspiration. I, too, have had a recent experience with antagonism toward the unknown and misunderstood. I happened to mention to an older family member that one of my friends was Muslim; the reaction was extremely negative. I was so taken aback that I didn’t know how to respond. I mumbled something about believing in the same God, but was met with silence. I changed the subject. I didn’t want to cram my now unorthodox beliefs down the throat of this particular family member and cause a rift.
As a Christian who longer considers herself a trinitarian (is that a contradiction?), I, too, stuggled with the concept. One of the best explanations I heard was from an Episcopal priest who compared the Trinity to a mountain. A mountain has different faces depending on from which direction it is viewed, but it is still the same mountain. So it is with the Divine. (He used the term “God”.) The thing of it is, a mountain as more than 3 faces…it has at least 4! North, South, East, AND West. Through my own spiritual journey, I have come to believe that the Divine has many faces, aspects, and names. All these faces, aspects, and names are for the one Divinity. This is a revolutionary concept for one who was raised Southern Baptist!
Thank you Betty and Aman for starting this conversation.
Peace be with you,
Bridgitt
July 16th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Dear Aman and Bridgitt,
I would like to continue our conversation. This is an unusual opportunity for real talk I think.
Aman, may I be so bold as to ask you about your daily prayer life. How would you instruct, say a child, in your pattern of prayer? How would you explain the importance of prayer in your tradition?
I visted a mosque here in Houston, and when it came time to pray, I followed the pattern of the women and children around me. I was astonished how dramatic it is to be on the floor in prayer. This is not something that Christians know much about. We kneel in some traditions and in others we stand - some marginalized groups prefer to stand (in a pose of resurrection) rather than kneel, and I find that fascinating. Some just remain seated. Some Christians prefer spontaneous prayer while others have a prayer book with elaborate prayers set out according to a particular plan.
And of course there are various meditative practices that some Christians regularly engage in. For some, an object of concentration is preferred - perhaps an icon or a candle, while some close their eyes and systematically clear away thoughts that cloud the mind.
But Muslims seem to be together in their manner of prayer. It seems to be the hallmark of your tradition - or at least that is the way the TV usually portrays your tradition. Sometimes Christians are seen in prayer on the TV but mainly I would say the news spotlights preachers or musicians or perhaps holy communion. Church buildings and stained glass windows and domes also get attention. I know we have great differences regarding the helpfulness of visual in our meditation.
Well, let me hear back from you, Aman. Hope there will be others who wouldn’t mind talking about prayer. Betty
August 6th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
I am Angel Eliza of the Church of Thomas. We have never believe that God was part of a Pantheon or divided into facets. Aman, there are very good things in the teachings of Mohamed. We welcome the other Children of God, from the Tradition of Abraham. We do not believe that God has a Gender. God is unique and unqualifiable.
When the writer of the New Testament John divided God it was to placate Greek and Roman critiques. A Pantheon was much more acceptable to the Greeks and Romans.
In response to the general question how do you pray from Betty:
The Church of Thomas holds Services and fellowships in homes. The Lord’s Prayer is the only prayer at this time. The majority of prayer follows the instructions to go to a private place to pray. We might have prayer suggestions at our fellowship but we do not lead people to pray for or about a concern in Services. If a person chooses to pray on the suggested topic it will be as it should be, between them and God.
Betty, I agree that there is way too much emphasis on spotlighting Preachers and pretty buildings. To Aman, Bridgett, and Betty: How do you worship?
Peace,
Angel Eliza
August 11th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Dear Angel Eliza,
Our Magdalene Community meets in an interfaith chapel in Houston, The Rothko Chapel. We meet there because we want to make an interfaith statement about our community and have conversations about other spiritualities and religious traditions.
This summer we have been studying a variety of religious traditions. We spent two weeks studying Judaism and two, Buddhism, and tomorrow we will take up Islam and have some readings and instruction about that religious faith. You can find our recent services on line if you to go http://www.magdalenecommunity.blogspot.com/ and for our archives go to http://www.brigidsplace.org.
Our services typically follow the following framework:
Opening Music
Call to Silence and Opening Meditation
Opening Greeting and Dialogue
Readings and Meditation
Music
Readings and Meditation
Call to Conversation
Closing Music and Dialogue
Of course our gatherings vary each time as do the number of people and our conversations. We are small and our numbers vary from 12-40. The ambience is very open and we never really know what is going to happen. But when it is over, we feel very enriched and changed.
Keep writing to us. We have much to talk about,
Betty